Who has gotten sick off this so-called "contaminated" medical cannabis

I've experienced contaminated product.  I know many others, including your former employer, who have also experienced the downside of chemically grown marijuana. Short term side effects can be as simple as a headache to feeling like vomiting depending on your level of sensitivity. The long term effects are difficult to measure. There has been clinical trials that have shown increases testicular cancer men and i believe it doesn't help the rising rate of breast cancer in this great nation. 

Don't get me wrong the city attorney is a dumbass with his comments. However, if he were better educated on the issue he could have really made an impact. I've seen people use chemical stearlizer, avid and other heavliy toxic substances. OR what about all the heavy metals that are used in chemical fertilizers to uncrease weight. So when you smoke your inhaling metals like aluminum, known to contribute to Parkinsons and Alzheimers  It's the lack of regulations that allow ignorant/negligent parties to cultivate marijuana for sick people. If the federal government allowed collectives to cultivate aggregate plant numbers. We wouldn't need to outsource for supply.

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yes, a properly run collective only buys from their members. But how can a collective tell if the product has been grown safely, they can't. Why because few collectives fund grows or hire educated parties to work for a salary like the law directs. Instead they pay outrageous prices outsourcing from "members" and pass the tab on to the patient. The patient receives whatever the owner can get his/her hands on which is now questionable at best. If had met an owner that cares I might not have this attitude, but almost all the collective owners i've ever met are just in it for the money and don't care if they sell pesticide laden product to others. They might care more if it effected thier profits, but until testing is legal it's the patient that will suffer the effects.

WAMM now that's a collective LA needs to learn from.

I have been sick from containments and know others who have as well. Now we do culture plates and spectrometry. But this is beyond most providers abilities. Even with Steep Hill's services.
But since this is a hanging and not a discussion, it really doesn't matter.

I wouldn't use the "containments" issue as "I don't see it point". It's likely to backfire on you Herb.

When you issue a challenge to look at the emperors' new clothes, he might be actually wearing some.

The containment issue is very overblown by Carmen of Falsetanich but it's still a real issue. When you ask to be shown these patients that have been affected by containments, you will find a few.

Demonizing or completely disagreeing with Falsetanichs' statements is like walking a balance beam. There is a grain of truth that will always rear it's head. It's not a truly black and white issue. The man has a point. Sure he lies about it and obviously plays the "anti" agenda, blown out of all proportion.. He seems quite skilled at this. Why not go after what you can defend and he can't? Things that are blatant lies. He certainly has done a ton of lying to meet his agenda.

A few grains of sand can stop a huge precision machine. By being partly truthful, Trutanich relies on those couple of grains.
When you get into denying the entire issue (and him), those tiny grains will become prominent. And itchy.

Perhaps the focus needs to be on what is being done to improve the situation, minimize the situation, while debunking his lies. But I would never call him out as being totally wrong. Why? Because he is right to a minor degree.

So please don't dismiss all his anti statements. He knows about the "grains" and how to play them. When you completely dismiss his points, it seems too polarized.. too "black and white". It's not black or white, it's a gray issue.

"Trutanich feels he has a public-safety duty to warn people about potentially contaminated medical cannabis which NO ONE has gotten sick off of but his office is standing in the way of reasonable, rational, decent regulations for non-profit, storefront medical cannabis dispensing collectives/cooperatives."

The problem is "NO ONE". It's just as easily debunked as the stuff Carmen of Falsetanich is pumping out.
It's not the easiest to defend statement / position because it flies in the face of fact.

If I was going to fell Carmen with a sword of truth, I would make sure it was free of those grains of sand. At least, I wouldn't use a sandy sword that fails over a few grains of sand.
That's why he is choosing his "weak points" carefully to attack, he knows they are plausibly defensible.

To use a statement "NO ONE" invites sand into your cracks. That's why he chose that scare tactic. It might be a time to divert from the black and white as it forces people to choose sides that they might disagree with.

Please understand I respect and I'm often in awe of your abilities to motivate yourself and others. But this is one that just goes back and forth, exposing more weak points on BOTH sides.

Just my 3 cents (BOE tax)