Topic: Cannabis and Epilepsy - Does anyone have stories to share?

Taken from the Drug Policy Alliance website www.drugpolicy.org

Medicinal Uses of Cannabis: Epilepsy

Excerpts from the American Public Health Association (APHA) amicus brief in Conant v. McCaffrey, (2001 filing):

    Marijuana is effective in controlling seizures

    Clinical experience and emerging research further indicate that marijuana can help control epileptic seizures.(45) Cannabidiol (CBD), one of the primary (and nonpsychoactive) cannabinoids present in the cannabis plant, appears to be of particular benefit, allowing patients who ingest it at certain times to avoid seizure activity. Some epileptics who cannot tolerate other antiseizure medications have been able to use marijuana to successfully control their seizures, without experiencing debilitating side effects.(46) (See complete APHA amicus brief for footnotes.)

Epilepsy Association of Toronto Regina v. Parker Amicus Brief.
http://www.drugpolicy.org/docUploads/ep … factum.pdf

Declaration of Valerie A. Corral, in the landmark medical marijuana case, Conant v. McCaffrey: Ms. Corral is an epilepsy sufferer for whom medical marijuana has proven the only effective treatment for controlling her grand mal seizures and which does so with far fewer side effects than anti-convulsant drugs available through prescription.

Joy, Janet E.; Stanley J. Watson, Jr.; John A. Benson, Jr., Eds. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. Washington, DC: Division of Neuroscience and Behavioral Health, Institute of Medicine. 1999. 259 p. (Chapter 4 of this report contains a section on epilepsy)

Re: Cannabis and Epilepsy - Does anyone have stories to share?

Hi, I have a seizure disorder. Can I talk about how Cannabis helps me here?
Thanks VetStonerrh EB

Proud Navy Veteran EBEL  !!! !!! !!!   I am a 22 year surviver of a TBI. I am a service connected DAV. Marijuana Helps me with disabilities. It is sad sad because all of my VA Doctors know this but they can't "Law" & won't talk about it to me. I KNOW that there are many other Veteran out there that Marijuana Helps !!!   smile Us Vets we will get this wrong law changed.

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Hello All!
 
     I also have epilepsy. I have been on many medicines over the years, and they have been effective in controling my siezers. BUT at a cost! People just don't understand what happens to you!

     Pot really helps!


Tnx,

lurd

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My combat unit was D company, 5/12, 199th Light Infantry Brigade.
I worked as a light weapons infantryman in heavy combat from that time until I was seriously wounded in a rocket propelled grenade ambush in which I incurred a penetrating temple wound on March 2, 1969.

Fragments from the rocket grenade lodged in my right temple, head, face and neck.  Our medic had to stop the bleeding and restart my heart three times on the way to the field surgical unit.  The survival rate was .02% for penetrating temple wounds in the Vietnam war with over 90% of the survivors rendered 'vegetables'.

I incurred the following residual conditions:
Loss of part of skull, both inner and outer tables, area larger than a 50cent piece; seizure disorder; chronic brain syndrome; cephalgia; total loss of vision in right eye; sleep disorder, [hypersomnia]; constant tinnitus right ear, post traumatic stress disorder;
scars disfiguring scalp, face and neck; hearing loss, sensoneural, severe, bilateral; facial muscle injury, right temporalis.

When I was about to be released from the army hospital, my army neurologist handed me a prescription for Dilantin but advised me to smoke marijauna instead because, "Pot is much more forgiving for your conditions.  I know it is illegal, so be careful." 
That was early summer, 1969.

I tried the Dilantin for a few months and could barely get out of bed on it. I could not open my mouth with out drooling. I could not think in complete sentences.  So I started substituting marijuana and it has helped me tremendously with out the debilitating side effects. I hope that the VA and our federal government will recognize the benefits of medical cannabis for traumatic brain injured veterans and everyone who can benefit from it very soon, for it truly is a life saver.

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WOW it nice to see that I am not the only one with head problems.  :-(  With this war America is in we are making Vet like me every day !!!  America is going to need marijuana !!!  Sorry I have not posted in a while but
you with a TBI understand. Look for a lot more post's from me soon
EB ;-)

Proud Navy Veteran EBEL  !!! !!! !!!   I am a 22 year surviver of a TBI. I am a service connected DAV. Marijuana Helps me with disabilities. It is sad sad because all of my VA Doctors know this but they can't "Law" & won't talk about it to me. I KNOW that there are many other Veteran out there that Marijuana Helps !!!   smile Us Vets we will get this wrong law changed.

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What is wrong with this country?  Marijuana is illegal for use as a medication but violating the constitution is something congressmen allowed, promoted, and some still want.  If there is a medication that can help persons with intractable epilepsy it needs to be discussed at the coming 2009 National Epilepsy March.

For vets with TBI you might be interested to know that an excellent epileptologist, Dr. Samuel J. Potolicchio, is on a committee working to help you.  After seeing numerous epilepsy specialists and visiting many epilepsy centers over the past 34 years I must say that he is the best neurologist I have had as a doctor.  Check out his web site.  He is extremely devoted and forthright.

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I endured a closed head trauma in 1992 which was the onset of my seizure disorder. I've been on phenobarbatol. dilantin, valium, and now tegretol. Tegretol has been a great success for me but I still have had break through seizures. I  feel that I am a different person when I am on these pills. Even though I have had good results from this medicine I always feel like I am on the verge of having a seizure all the time. I smoke in order to subdue that sensation of a seizure coming about.

After years of VA medical visits I finally told my VA doctor today that I smoke small amounts to help with the feeling of seizures that might be coming on. I've been seizure free for about 8 years.

All my blood work from two days ago came back good, including my TEGRETOL levels. But, that doctor I saw was very insistent that I quit using "illicit drugs" immediately and I am now to see a Neurologist for my epilepsy.:/

I'm so confused as to what to do.

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KG6YEN wrote:

I endured a closed head trauma in 1992 which was the onset of my seizure disorder. I've been on phenobarbital. dilantin, Valium, and now tegretol. Tegretol has been a great success for me but I still have had break through seizures. I  feel that I am a different person when I am on these pills. Even though I have had good results from this medicine I always feel like I am on the verge of having a seizure all the time. I smoke in order to subdue that sensation of a seizure coming about.

After years of VA medical visits I finally told my VA doctor today that I smoke small amounts to help with the feeling of seizures that might be coming on. I've been seizure free for about 8 years.

All my blood work from two days ago came back good, including my TEGRETOL levels. But, that doctor I saw was very insistent that I quit using "illicit drugs" immediately and I am now to see a Neurologist for my epilepsy.:/

I'm so confused as to what to do.

The government has ran a very effective propaganda machine set against its use and people who use it.
Prohibition failed.

Re: Cannabis and Epilepsy - Does anyone have stories to share?

hello there i know for a fact that marijuana helps with  epilepsy. it also helps one of my good friend that also as  epilepsy.

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Wow it's great to know that so many others have the same problems as me with siezures and Rx's and t.b.i. I empathize completely as I am also a disabled vet I had T.b.i. and broken back in thailand so the smoke helps with siezure control, anxiety, pain and on days when I'm completely losing my mind. God Bless

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I know that this post is a bit outdated, but I would want to reactivate this again and raise issues and concern about Epilepsy.

I was diagnosed last year and been through so much tests and medications. I am still having seizures and the doctors told me that this may be a lifetime medication for me.

Hope this forum will help us who have this medical condition.

Let's all be strong.





Emo Quiz

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It's funny I had absence seizures as kid and now have TBI induced tonic-clonic seizures. I had no problems w/ seizures after roughly the age of 8. I begin smoking weed at the age 14. Weed never gave me hint of a seizure until I was 21 and had my wisdom teeth removed due to one becoming abcsessed.  I was up nearly 3 days due to the pain,and had a tonic-clonic seizure during that time.

I had the teeth removed under anesthesia,and felt odd for the next couple of days. After three days I was cleared to smoke and fired up my morning joint. Two short absence seizures while toking away. It had been so long since I had one,I had no what the seizures were?  I thought I'd run across some great weed?

This went on for a couple of months. Once or twice a week I'd be burning one of seven daily joints and I'd have another lil' "spell". This gradually increased until to two-three times a day. One Sunday my Mom is over,I sneak into the bedroom for a couple of bong hits I come back to living room and had a couple of spells. She's on it immediately. "How long have the seizures been going on?"

I go to the neurologist. Because of my past my only choice of drug was Dilantin (can't give a dopefiend phenobarbital.) and I was ordered to quit smoking weed. The seizures ended shortly into treatment and after three years I was taken off the Dilantin. My weed smoking remained minimal and finally nil after 5-7 years.

Flash forward 22 years. I'm in my basement and hear the phone ring. I stand up and I'm working near a beam that's at roughly six feet off the floor. Unfortunately I'm wearing work boots and come in a hair over six feet in socks. I turned to get the phone. The beam knocked me out cold.

Roughly 4-5 days later my tonic-clonic seizures begin.

I was put on a drug,which I won't mention, that reminded me of the second-third hour after sparking up a joint back the old days. In fact when my wife asked me how I felt on it,my response was "mellow" a term I hadn't used in good 25 years.

I turned out to be too much of med for me at even minimal levels. I moved to another drug that has worked quite well for me. My main problems post stabilization were severe muscle spasms caused by damage from the seizures. Muscle relaxants and the seizure med made me zombie boy. I finally said the Hell with it and figured I'd live with the spasms?

Roughly six months later I'm off on a fishing trip with a couple old friends,both spiritual siblings of Ken Keasey. I start having spasms early in the ride and I'm hurtin' bad two hours in. Keasey #2 says "You want to try this" and sticks a one hitter my face. My attitude by that time is what's to lose?

It took me two hits to do the fellas "one hitter"  but my spasms were gone thirty seconds after I passed the thing back up front. I then went three and a half weeks without a spasm. This is from 3-6 plus severe spasms a day for 7 years. Friggin' amazing.

My dosage is 3-5 hits of what the kids call "schwag" once a week,depending on the potency. Two years now and a total of roughly 5 spasms in that time.  I'm functional human being again due to cheap low grade weed. My docs are good with it,(the neurologist laughs about it),and so is the wife.

Honestly until the spasm relief happened I thought medical marijuana movement was nice little tactic to legalize weed in general? Now I believe there's something to it.

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Hello out there. Well let me start off by saying I guess I have epilepsy too?! 

When I was 4 years old during a neighbors wrestling match I was kicked and nocked back had banged my head on a steel wagon wheel in 1980.
They called paramedics, I just remember being nocked out and the lights. Stitches and recovery I was only 4 years old.

8 years ago now 23 years old, when I was washing my hair in the bathroom I looked down and looked up and my face was busted. Lost a tooth, busted lip.
WHAT THE H HAPPENED? At first I thought I got light headed and fainted.

Well life went on bought a new front tooth and 6 months later I'm Driving, on my way home from a date.
Close to home and while driving turned my head west towards the sun and I only remember faintly seeing a black coated guy and shiny white glare. I wake up I'm in the hospital.
Whoever called the ambulance said "I stopped my car in the intersection rolled down my window and asked for help", I don't remember doing that. Not a scratch on my car.
The doctors said I had a seizer BUT I was never diagnosed before.
So they take my drivers licence away by code & I get tested EVERYTHING, EEG's, EKG's, BLOOD, MRI's, CAT SCANS, AND NOTHING FOUND!
BUT here take this medicine (Dilantin, phenytoin, etc.).
I became a different person under all those crap pills they made me pop. READ ABOUT THERE SIDE EFFECTS.

I would smoke weed at night to make me go to sleep, be able to think clearly while relaxed,  get my F__KING appetite back. 
1 year goes bye with no seizures so my doctor takes me off those medications.  Still with no conclusion to why I had seizure activity.
So I'm not taking medicine no more in 2002.

So 3 years go bye 2004 no seizures.
I'm cleaning out my closet I go into the bathroom and I have a black eye. WHAT! How!?
The next day I ran into the kitchen to tell my brother I don't feel right, right in front of him for the first time I had a Grand maul.

Everybody else probably did this too!
So I got back on insurances, got a new doctor, all of those rip off test, over priced, "I have a life long illness and I have to spend thousands on therapy".
I'm now broke can't afford treatment.
YET THEY STILL NEVER FOUND OUT THE CAUSE OFF THE SEIZURE ACTIVITY & they are DOCTORS?!   I SPENT MONEY ON NOTHING FOR NOTHING.

So going back, I've smoked weed forever.          I'm now 33.         I've never had a seizure while high in my whole life.

I've only had them when I was not taking my prescription like I was supposed to, stressful events like, in court for my daughter's visitation rights "EXPENSIVE", new job, fighting with others,  STRESSING HOW I WAS GOING TO PAY FOR ALL MY NEW MEDICAL BILLS!!  HEALTH CARE ISSUE! 
I can't to get back to my career mind, my goals , my business
I have become hostile, very aggressive, taking my pills I feel all the side effects. I can't eat early, I can't even jump start my butt to get out of bed. But if I don't take my prescription and have seizures there goes my drivers licence. How will I get to work.  I can't afford test right now I'm broke. I'm confused.

I'll smoke marijuana, THE MEDICAL KIND.    IT HELPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll make sure I go by state guidelines, FEDERAL guidelines, follow all the rules it will help.

Right now all I need to do is get back to work, eliminate and don't create stress, eat right, sleep right, Watch my daughter grow up, live, play my music.
I agree that medical marijuana does help.

Good luck to everybody out there who has epilepsy, seizures, etc.